Two “Grok” Thumbs Down
BUMPED and UPDATED:
The Blogging Councilor has picked up on this nonsense and has a post here - go read it!
This initiative is being put forth by a group that wants to institute broad-based taxes on all of us. The latest attack has been by putting warrant articles in about 80 town elections calling for the removal of the pledge.
Their thought is that if the pledge doesn’t exist then politicians wouldn’t be seen as reneging on their word when the tax is instituted.
The main argument for bringing this new tax to life here is that it will greatly reduce our property taxes. This argument requires a belief that the politicians in Concord that don’t pay their bills to the counties, towns and cities now will properly fund local government and schools. I wonder what imaginary world that these people live in.
This report is very good at showing the effective property tax rate for residential property in NH at 13th to 15th place out of 50 states. When you take the total burden of all taxes paid it is not hard to figure out that our actual tax burden is among the lightest in the nation.
And Greg has it exactly right - one cannot just look at one tax, all taxes have to be taken into effect.
The comment over there also caught my eye. From Jane:
Basically these articles would like you reject the Pledge by discouraging candidates from taking it or not voting for candidates who have taken it so they can leave the dialog open for more discussion about ‘fairer’ taxes. This is a non-binding resolution. But it is the first step in the demonization of the Pledge and those who take it, under the premise that they are preventing the legislature from considering more ‘fair’ ways of taxation.
You cannot legislate away the ‘free speech’ of candidates. Candidates will continue to take the pledge as offered by CNHT as seen here: (and hopefully at our annual picnic on July 5t, 2008)
http://www.cnht.org/images/pledge.jpg
Even Governor Lynch signed our Pledge.
The Pledge is our NH Advantage.
Granite State Fair Tax Coalition (which is not for fair taxes, just taxes
Article 27: To see if the Town will vote to approve the following resolution to be forwarded to our State Representatives, our State Senator and our Governor:
Resolved: We the citizens of Gilford, NH believe in a New Hampshire that is just and fair. The property tax has become unjust and unfair. State leaders who take a pledge for no new taxes perpetuate higher and higher property taxes. We call on our State Representatives, our State Senator and our Governor to reject the “Pledge”, have an open discussion covering all options, and adopt a revenue system that lowers property taxes. (Submitted by Petition)
It seemed that the sponsor for this article was Mr. Rogers as he was the one that moved the question (reasoning: why would someone move the question if one was not in favor of it?). Yet, at no time did he mention that it is really the GSFTC that is pushing this!
Why do I think this is silly? Earlier,
he had stood up and advocated for spending more taxpayer money on supporting the Outside Agencies / Non-Governmental Organizations. Effectively, this is 'I want the Town to spend more, but let someone else pay for it!"
Now, I am of the camp that property tax monies should be spent solely on local government activities but I will address that again in another post.
Several counter arguments to this were offered:
- Lower spending results in lower taxes
- Adding additional tax revenue streams will not result in lower property taxes in the long run (the saddest example of this is NJ).
- We lose local control of how taxes are gathered and spent.
Terry Stewart, Doug Lambert, John Goodhue, and I all spoke against this article on these arguments. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when the green light is given to write checks to MORE places using tax payer money, the revenue stream has to be increased by some method. Just WISHING that by avoiding property taxes with another tax will make the overall problem of high taxes go away is ludicrous.
Did anyone else notice that while folks spoke against the article, giving what I thought were valid reasons,
no one spoke at all in favor of it (or at least, even trying to give a rebuttal)?
One important issue, at least to this transplanted New Hampshire-ite of 22 years, would be the total loss of control of what is the largest tax revenue stream in the state. Once gone, that control will never return. And given the stupidity of the Democrats now controlling the levers of power in Concord and seeing that they, in less than one year, are spending the State into a deficit, do you really want to take that fiscal governor off?
Now for the hypocrisy bit (in my opinion): Mr. Rogers wants the Town to spend the money for the outside agencies yet he complains that local property taxes are too high? Now he doesn't want to pay for the stuff he wants us to “buy”? This is supposed to be fair and just? Consider it – on one hand, he wants everyone in town to pay for services but probably not him? Yes folks, there is a connection –
wanting to spend more money in the Town Budget causes increased property taxes. Yet, here he is, crying that property taxes are too high! Is this a case of cognitive dissonance or what?
Next, I believe that this is a Trojan Horse, and here is a great example of that.
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