Nope, not yet
UPDATE (even before posting it!)
I am putting this up, even if incomplete, as Doug has posted his new YouTube. The context of why that post is there may be explained here in this one.
Note: I think there are a couple more to post, but do not have the time right now....later on today.
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I thought it was, but I guess it has not. Dale Dormody (Doug's chief rival in this past BudComm election) has raised the following question (to the entire Budget Committee).
Dale Dormody sent out an email to the entire BudComm members (Cc: Dick Hickok, Sandy Bailey, Debbie Shackett, Doug Lambert, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Bob Brent, Sue Greene, and Terry Stewart) is questioning why Doug and I were talking to the MSC at all.
I question the use of the email - he was warned at the same Administrative meeting he references below that email is not really allowable as a communication device if one truly wishes to abide by the spirit of the Right To Know law - I know, I said it.
Thus, so that the public will know (and yes, I have asked that this email string be put into the minutes of the next BudComm meeting) what has transpired. The email thread is given in ascending chronological order.
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From: Dale Dormody
To: Dick Hickok ; Sandy Bailey ; Debbie Shackett ; Doug Lambert ; Evans Juris ; Gus Benavides ; John O'Brien ; Margo Weeks ; Robert Brent ; Skip Murphy ; Sue Greene ; Terry Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Good morning, all,
A quick question about something that's been in the news lately - specifically the meetings held in Gilford with the Moultonborough Study Committee. Apparently they are looking into the formation of a municipal budget committee and were seeking input?
My question is over an issue that we had discussed in our administrative meeting this spring. I thought we had all agreed that no members would be speaking on behalf of the budget committee? I've only viewed a small portion of the tape - but it appears that Doug and Skip are both providing their feedback to the Moultonborough group. I'd just like a confirmation that they had preceded their comments with a disclaimer, and had clearly stated that they were not speaking on behalf of the committee?
Further, I think it might have been more appropriate for Doug and Skip to have suggested that a meeting be arranged with the full Gilford Budget Committee - and to have withheld their comments until that time.
Perhaps that was done, and those disclaimers were made....but I didn't see it on the tape, and I'd like a confirmation.
Thanks
Dale Dormody
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From: doug@granitegrok.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:40 AM
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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:46:36 -0400
From: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
To: Doug Lambert, Dick Hickok,Sandy Bailey, "Debbie Shackett, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Robert Brent, Skip Murphy, Sue Greene, Terry Stewart
Dick,
As chair, if you feel it would be more appropriate to call a special session with public notices to discuss this, please feel free.
Dale
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From: Skip Murphy
To: Dale Dormody
Cc: Dick Hickok ; Sandy Bailey ; Debbie Shackett ; Doug Lambert ; Evans Juris ; Gus Benavides ; John O'Brien ; Margo Weeks ; Robert Brent ; Sue Greene ; Terry Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
And it is such a delightful day, isn't it?
Confirmation? Yes, I told the MSC members, specifically Doug Whitley (sp?) sitting to my right, that he needed to contact Dick Hickok, Chair of the Gilford BudComm, to get the official word.
I also told them that there are those members that do not agree with Doug and I on the board; the MSC should talk to them as well for a full picture.
-Skip
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:52:00 -0400
From: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
To: <Skip@GraniteGrok.com>
CC: Dick Hickok, Sandy Bailey, Debbie Shackett, Doug Lambert, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Robert Brent, Sue Greene, Terry Stewart
Excellent - thanks Skip - you saved me the time of reviewing the entire tape.
Dale
From: doug@granitegrok.com
To: Dale Dormody ; Dick Hickok ; Sandy Bailey ; Debbie Shackett ; Evans Juris ; Gus Benavides ; John O'Brien ; Margo Weeks ; Robert Brent ; Skip Murphy ; Sue Greene ; Terry Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
And of course, one wonders if Dale asks the VERY SAME questions of the two school board members? If they were, in fact dispatched by the school board to speak on their behalf, wouldn't they, in essence, become an official subcommittee, thus subject to 91A? And if they claim they gave the "disclaimer", we'll never know, will we? After all, they were too busy hiding from the public!
Besides Dale, what would/could you do if we didn't put the "disclaimer", hmmmm?
Regards,
Doug
Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:02:30 -0400
From: Dale Dormody
To: doug@granitegrok.com, Dick Hickok, Sandy Bailey, Debbie Shackett, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Robert Brent, Skip Murphy, Sue Greene, Terry Stewart
Doug,
My questions were related specifically to the budget committee and the rules we had all agreed to during our administrative meeting this spring.
And yes, Skip, it IS a delightful day. We needed the rain.
Dale
From: Skip Murphy
To: Dale Dormody
Cc: Dick Hickok ; Sandy Bailey ; Debbie Shackett ; Doug Lambert ; Evans Juris ; Gus Benavides ; John O'Brien ; Margo Weeks ; Robert Brent ; Sue Greene ; Terry Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Actually, I would encourage EVERYONE (and not just BudComm members) to review the tape/DVD - that way, nothing can be misconstrued.
Dick, would you please have this email string entered into the minutes of our next meeting please?
I will post it at GilfordGrok to make sure that there is some "public presence" in this regard.
-Skip
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:19:09 -0400
From: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
To: <Skip@GraniteGrok.com>
CC: Dick Hickok, Sandy Bailey, Debbie Shackett, Doug Lambert, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Robert Brent, Sue Greene, Terry Stewart
That would be great, Skip. What you post on your blog is, of course, up to you - but I think posting of the e-mail string in the minutes should be the official method to handle the 'public presence'.
Now...I'm wondering if every small question will generate this much back and forth? I'll have to clear more time in my day planner!
Dale
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:23:56 -0400
From: Skip Murphy
Reply-To: Skip@GraniteGrok.com
To: Dale Dormody
CC: Dick Hickok, Sandy Bailey, Debbie Shackett, Doug Lambert, Evans Juris, Gus Benavides, John O'Brien, Margo Weeks, Robert Brent, Sue Greene, Terry Stewart
Small questions often are not.
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:55:59 -0400
From: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
To: Skip@GraniteGrok.com
Skip,
Is there more to the tape of the meeting than what you have posted? I reviewed everything that was out on your blog soon after it was posted, but I think you made reference to a complete, unedited version somewhere?
Thanks...Dale
PS - I didn't copy everyone, but please feel free to add this into your blog record...
Dale
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From: Skip Murphy
To: Dale Dormody
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Quite a bit more....it takes some to post to YouTube and they are limited in length when uploaded. And yes, there are unedited versions available.
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:38:18 -0400
From: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
To: Skip@GraniteGrok.com
Well then, I suppose I should request a copy? As I said, by confirming that you and Doug had given a disclaimer of sorts, you saved me the time of reviewing it...I thought I could get by with just reviewing the youtube portions....but your point is well taken...How do I get a full copy?
Dale Dormody
DK Net Design / Library Websites, Inc.
603-524-0937
ddormody@librarywebsites.com
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Subject: Re: Gilford Budget Committee / Moultonborugh Study Group
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:41:07 -0400
From: Skip Murphy <Skip@GraniteGrok.com>
Reply-To: Skip@GraniteGrok.com
To: Dale Dormody <daledormody@gilfordbudget.com>
Consider it requested. It may be a couple of days, as Doug has just left on a short trip (I believe) - I can ask the Moultonborough person for a copy of his.
-Skip
